Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (2008)

By memsaab

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Sweet geeky Punjabis meet Barbara Cartland! How can that not be delightful? As usual I am late to this party, which normally would stop me from writing about it but since in this case I found the film so much more wonderful than most of my friends and blogging compadres did, I feel the need to bloble (blog+burble) away. Incidentally, I watched RNBDJ with my sister, who also loved it, and it helped to have each other’s company and input on the rare occasions (almost entirely at the end) where the hackles did rise.

I am not a fan of Adi Chopra’s; I know I’ve mentioned elsewhere here that I did not like DDLJ much at all. But I didn’t feel this was permeated to nearly the same annoying degree of condescending-men-know-best that his other films have been, thanks in large part to Taani’s character (very nicely acted by Anushka Sharma); but also in large part thanks to the characters of Suri/Raj and Bobby Khosla (also well acted by Shah Rukh Khan and Vinay Pathak). All three are so patently ineffective at being that sort of paternalistic man that it is a joy to watch Suri’s bumbling but well-intentioned efforts to win Taani’s heart succeed—and succeed precisely because he is inept at “macho.”

Her father’s wanting her to be married off before he dies didn’t bother me much either, since I think most parents (even mine!) worry about their children being “alone” in the world. And in Indian society anyway it’s my experience that unmarried women are pitied by men and women alike! Family life is so important there that I can believe a woman who has just lost her beloved fiance and is about to lose her only remaining family member is more likely to feel that it doesn’t matter any more whom she marries, rather than that she doesn’t want to marry anybody (which would be more likely how I’d feel).

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Other criticism of this that I have read centered around how unrealistic it is: well, it is, yes! Duh! But I don’t necessarily require realism from an all-out entertainer like this. I’ve confessed my weakness for romance novels on this blog before. The premise of this film could have been lifted (if I believed that Adi Chopra reads Barbara Cartland, which I don’t really, although it might endear him more to me) almost exactly (except with genders reversed) from one of my favorite Cartland novels called “Desire of the Heart.” That novel’s tagline is: “Dangerous Masquerade: She was flirting with a reckless deception to hold the man she loved.” (I know, I know! But when you are an unattractive teenager you long for someone to come along and transform you, too!)

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The heroine in this book marries a man whom she loves, but who does not love her (a marriage of “convenience”) although he doesn’t treat her badly. She transforms herself from an awkward, dowdy country mouse into a beautiful woman with the help of a friend, and wins her husband’s love as a stranger not by changing her essential self, just the external trappings (which give her the confidence to get to know him and allow him to get to know her).

At the end she tests his love just as Surinder did in this—and this is where the movie did fail a bit for me. Her husband tells his dowdy wife that he’s fallen in love with another woman and offers her a generous divorce settlement. Maybe given Indian culture (or more specifically Adi Chopra’s mind-set) this could not happen when a woman was leaving her marriage instead of a man. But it is the point where I rolled my eyes finally: to believe in Taani’s epiphany that her husband and marriage was more important than her happiness with Raj exasperated me. I would have much preferred that she be honest with Suri about her feelings for Raj, and then have him show up for the final competition as Suri. His plan to just walk away if she decided on running away with Raj made me want to scream—it is a supreme and total Fail. Suri’s selfish, misplaced pride and insecurity gets to dictate the course of her life. I wanted to slap him for it.

However, this glitch at the end was pretty minor for me compared to the major goodness throughout the rest of it. Even all the religious overtones didn’t bother me too much—I personally am much closer to atheism on the belief spectrum, but I’ve long ago accepted that in Hindi film I’m going to have to let that go. At least Surinder many times said that he saw God in Taani, and it wasn’t the one-sided woman seeing God in her husband that I usually have to swallow. And here are some of the things I loved about it.

The Bobby-Suri bromance: The two of them are so hilarious together, and so…well, GEEKY. Bobby is a wannabe hipster who just *doesn’t* quite cut it, although Suri certainly thinks he’s got some authority. But they are both such nice, sweet, well-intentioned guys who care about each other.

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And Bobby’s advice to Suri—although he doesn’t take it—to tell Taani the truth, along with his attempts to point out how unfair Suri is being to her go a long way towards mitigating my irritation at Suri’s choices. At least I am not the only one thinking “No that’s wrong!!!”

Bobby Khosla: Vinay Pathak is great. His Bobby is a blond-spiky-haired goofball in gaudy shirts trying so desperately to be cool. And he’s such an unashamed sentimentalist, bless him.

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Surinder Sahni: I think this is one of SRK’s best performances. So many little details go into making this character someone to root for: his wish for his wife’s pain to diminish, and for her to retain her true character; his empathy for how she must be feeling when she comes to his home as a bride in mourning; and above all, his inept fumblings and deep-rooted insecurities—how can you not want him to get his girl?

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And how sweet is his unabashed infatuation for the tiffin which for him symbolizes his wife’s care:

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I also love his complete dislike for Raj’s tight clothes!

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I didn’t even care that his obviously low-level clerking job at Punjab Power could not possibly justify his luxuriously gorgeous house. It just made me giggle every time he said:

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Ji!

The flamboyant Raj: I loved that despite his changed appearance, Raj was really no different than Suri—still the same personality, but thinking that he looked cool as Raj helped Suri come out of his shell (way too much, a great deal of the time!). The film could not have worked at all if Suri had been suddenly transformed into someone more “Shah Rukh Khan-like”—and it could have been difficult to resist the temptation to make him that way—but keeping Raj as ineptly uncool as Suri is was perfect (although his endless film-title dialogues wore a bit thin).

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Taani: As many people have pointed out, Anushka Sharma is perfect in this role. She’s not too glamorous, not too gullible, not too sweet; instead she’s a normal girl who has found herself in a situation of her own making, and she tries to make the best of it without losing sight of who she is. She also has the good sense to first dislike the idiot Raj, and then to realize that he has some wonderful qualities. If she was slower to notice that about her husband, can we blame her? He didn’t do nearly as much to draw her attention to himself.

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The songs: I loved Salim-Suleiman’s songs, all of them, and like most people really enjoyed the cameo appearances and cinematic references to stars and days gone by. It was especially nice to see Rani, whom we don’t see nearly enough of these days.

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And I can never NOT love a Shammi reference!

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The cinematography: From the gorgeous house where Suri and Taani lived, to the streets of Amritsar and the Golden Temple, and the song picturizations, I thought the film was beautifully shot and presented. I already wanted to see Amritsar: now I really really really want to.

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In short (too late! I know!), I liked just about everything here—the characters (all the minor characters were well-drawn too), the story, the performances, the music, the dialogues and above all the humor. Anything I disliked pales next to how much I just really enjoyed sitting through this. If only Dara Singh had been in it too! For other—different!—takes on this by people whose opinions I respect you can go here and here (if you haven’t read them already).

Edited to add: And for a much more eloquent and well-written view of this film that mirrors mine almost exactly (including the Cartland reference!), go here!

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89 Responses to “Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (2008)”

  1. sunil Says:

    Barbara Cartland? I thought she was a British thing?

    • memsaab Says:

      She was British :-) But many authors from across the pond are easy to find here too!

      • sunil Says:

        Ah! In which case let me be the first to congratulate you on
        a very slick, professionally done photo-shopping. I am
        guessing you nicked the cover from amazon. :)

        • memsaab Says:

          Not from Amazon, although I did find it online (and it’s the exact same edition that I have!!!) :-) and thank you *curtseys* I don’t do many things well but I am a whiz at Photoshop. Although it could have been better were I not so lazy.

          And you are v. polite to focus on that instead of telling me what a twit I am for liking this film that nobody else did (except my sister, perhaps it’s a genetic thing).

          • sunil Says:

            And you are v. polite to focus on that instead of telling me what a twit I am for liking this film that nobody else did (except my sister, perhaps it’s a genetic thing).

            Hey! Not at all! If we all liked the same
            things the world would be an incredibly
            boring place. And I never understood
            people who insist on watching movies
            they know is not meant for them AND
            then proceed to tell everyone how their
            incredibly evolved sensibilities was
            offended by such movies. :-)

          • memsaab Says:

            Exactly! Why would anyone who requires realism watch a Yashraj—esp. Adi Chopra—film? Why?

  2. bethlovesbollywood Says:

    I feel like everyone likes this movie quite a bit except PPCC and me. Hmmm.

    After reading October’s awesome, epic writeup (http://octoberzine.blogspot.com/2009/06/flirting-with-reckless-deception.html), I’ll have a lot more to think about if I ever watch this again. One idea that she brings up that I really like is giving Surinder a little room for his dumb decisions by realizing how they must have seemed like a good idea at the time. Surinder really doesn’t have any workable plans – like Taani, he finds himself in a surprising situation, and it was easy for me to forget that because I didn’t think to feel sorry for him the way I did for Taani.

    I’m trying to learn to bite my tongue about the god thing. I will say, though, that in this particular film it was the nature of the god they kept rambling about that bothered me most – I don’t think the film gave good evidence for god being a very nice force most of the time, so why would you want to be matched up by that?

    • memsaab Says:

      I just edited this post to add the link to her :-) I disagree about everyone liking it though, I have not read one single positive review of it—and I’ve read quite a few of them! I had majorly low expectations, but I don’t think that’s why I liked it. I think Karen and I maybe saw a different film than everybody else!

      I don’t think Surinder made bad decisions (except the one I talk about); I think he just wanted to be near her, and thought if he disguised himself she wouldn’t notice. All the later things that grew out of that one decision were a bit inevitable—not thought through, but not poor decisions on his part either.

    • memsaab Says:

      And as far as the God thing goes—pretty much every God that I know of isn’t very nice a great deal of the time. Otherwise, how can you explain the stuff that goes on in this world every day? It’s one reason I don’t believe in God, but if you do it’s pretty inescapable that He/She/Them is/are not very benign. It doesn’t stop people from asking Him/Her/Them for stuff all the time though!

      • harvey Says:

        hope you don’t mind me adding my opinion in your conversation.

        God is for ME neither benign nor evil. He/She/It is above it.
        The message (from what I’ve heard till now), which comes across from the film is that God is Love just like in Bhakti Yoga, Sufism, Mystic paths of Christianity and Sikhism.

        • memsaab Says:

          You are always welcome to chime in :) That’s what my sister got out of RNBDJ too—the message is more than anything that God Is Love. And yes, I think at least in Christianity the belief is that God is above what we humans do, and we can’t and needn’t make sense of it. I prefer science to religion though ;-)

          • harvey Says:

            Science is great.
            I prefer spirituality to religion. And I like both science and spirituality, for me at least they don’t exclude each other.

  3. Anarchivist Says:

    OMG! Freakyweird! Besides my sisters, I think you’re the only person I’ve ever met who’s heard of this book. (Or should I say, us and Aditya Chopra? Ha ha!) I have that same blue edition, too, although the purplish gown she seems to be wearing on the cover isn’t nearly chic enough, considering…

    • memsaab Says:

      I know!!! MY sister’s never heard of it until yesterday. Do you think Adi Chopra has read it? I have to wonder, the plots are so very very similar. And I mostly remember it for the clothes and diamond hair pins she had, similar to you :-D

    • memsaab Says:

      My sister has now joined our ranks, she read it last evening :-)

  4. Anarchivist Says:

    The only other Barbara Cartland I even remember (of the zillion I read) is “An Innocent in Paris” (orginal title — gasp! — “A Virgin in Paris”), which was also set among the “demi-monde.” I sense a theme. But “Desire of the Heart” is definitely the Cartland creme.

    • memsaab Says:

      I read a lot of them too, but DOTH is the only one I kept (or really remember). I liked Georgette Heyer better generally :-) but they were all pretty similar!

      • dustedoff Says:

        Heyer is way better – and I love her sense of humour! I remember reading DOTH years ago (as a teenager), and yes, it does follow a similar story as Rab ne Bana di Jodi.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if Adi Chopra did pick the basic story from a Cartland! – Someone I know, a well-respected author and a very prominent academician, is addicted to Heyers. So why not? ;-)
        And I liked Rab ne…, overall. The constant thing of spouse=God got on my nerves a bit, and I found it hard to believe that sticking a moustache on could transform Suri into Raj (but then, it could be construed as her never having paid any attention to Suri) – despite that, fun. And like pacifist, I saw this around the same time as Ghajini, which I hated: it was just so violent and for so long.

        • memsaab Says:

          I was just so happy that the spouse=God thing WORKED BOTH WAYS that I couldn’t be annoyed. And references to God are so completely ubiquitous in Hindi cinema that they just kind of go by unnoticed for me most of the time now.

  5. pacifist Says:

    I’m among the minority who loved this film. Much more than Gajani which I didn’t like at all.
    I find RNBDJ and its dealings with God more believable and acceptable than all the nonsense that went on in the other one.

    • memsaab Says:

      Yay! You can join me and Karen and Marta! I haven’t seen Ghajini and don’t really want to. Probably won’t—it doesn’t seem the kind of film I would enjoy, which isn’t to say it isn’t good.

  6. Nida Says:

    Sounds like you really enjoyed it! Ajnabi watched this (with her sister, too I think) and they had a blast with it, according to her post. I think had I seen this on DVD instead of rushing to the theater, I would have been less disappointed. I loved the music, though, and probably will rewatch, because the more reviews that I read on it, the more I want to give it another shot!

    Initially, I was too repulsed by the Raj character–but you make a good point. Would someone like Suri be able to magically transform his personality into someone as slick and smooth as the trademark SRK image? Probably not, which is why Raj was far from just that. Something for me to think about should I watch this again.

    That Barbara Cartland novel sounds soo good, BTW!

    • memsaab Says:

      I loved that Raj was so repulsive :-) And that she thought so too!!! So hilarious. Do watch it again, I’d forgotten that Ajnabi liked it too—I think her review was one of the things that prompted me to give it a try!

  7. Anonymous Says:

    Memsaab, I think Adi is the director of this movie. Check the titles on who wrote the story. The story writer may be a Cartland fan too.

    HHoney Irani is known to lift stories from romance books (M&Bs) and give them a desi masala twist – eg Jab Pyaar Kissi Se Hota Hai etc

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Oh I did not like this movie – found it boring even to watch on DVD.

  9. bobbysing Says:

    Hi memsaab,
    Though the movie did try to take an advantage of Bollywood’s current favourite locales of Punjab, but still, the plus point was that it showed “The Golden Temple” beautifully.

    So do visit there, whenever you can, as it is surely a place to be atleast once in a lifetime. In few words, the divine place, still has the vibes of a living temple.

    Regarding the movie “RBVDJ” a similar plot was earlier there in the 1975 released movie called “PONGA PANDIT” having Randhir Kapoor in the lead. In that movie too he disguises as a pop star and returns to flirt with his own wife and tries to win over her. You can read more about the movie at the following links :

    http://www.bobbytalkscinema.com/recentpost.php?postid=postid032609134951

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318584/

    Do let me know, how do you fee about the similar themes and “Ponga Pandit”

    • memsaab Says:

      Oh, Amritsar and the Punjab is definitely in my travel plans one of these days. This film did show the Golden Temple off so beautifully, but it seems to me like one of those places that would probably always look beautiful!

      Did you mention Ponga Pandit here before? I’ve been looking for it (on DVD with subtitles) and had no luck :( It’s on my list of things to look for, though, it definitely sounds right up my alley! Do read Octoberzine’s review of RNBDJ (linked at the end of my post)—it’s a very thoughtful essay on the whole masquerade issue.

  10. bobbysing Says:

    Ya, i think i did mention it in reply to something related to plagiarism in Bollywood. The movie might have been released on VCD or DVD in India. though i watched it on a movie channel, but still i would try to find more info on it its availablilty.

  11. harvey Says:

    Haven’t seen the movie, but you make it sound good.
    The only thing that puts me off is Barbara Cartland!

  12. shellie Says:

    Memsaab,
    Phew. I am not alone after all! Clearly there is a small group who love this film and I am glad to fall into that category with you. Though my review isn’t nearly as in-depth as yours, there wasn’t much I didn’t like about this one. I don’t think I even really talked about the God thing, and while I suppose it played a large factor in the movie, I am not overly religious and so I focused more on the story itself. I loved Suri’s insecure and hesitant love (even if I was yelling at him for some of his decisions), I loved how insanely hard Raj tried to be cool, I LOVE the music, I love how I get instantly emotional at the end almost to the point of happy tears every single time I watch it.

    At any rate, I will consider myself in good company on this one.

    • memsaab Says:

      Yay! Our club gets bigger. I’m like you—I didn’t think much about the “god” aspect, except to note gratefully that it was a two-way street, a welcome relief. Sounds like we appreciated the same things! :-)

  13. Filmi Girl Says:

    Okay – I didn’t want to watch this based on the PPCC and Beth’s reviews but I think you changed my mind.

    (I used to LOVE romance novels when I was a young teen – much better than actual romance with teen boys (EW!) anyways.) XD

    • memsaab Says:

      Yup, I loved it almost unreservedly, and so did my sister. I maybe saw a different film from PPCC and Beth! It was a solid, well-done effort with lots of humor and just great characters. Do see it and tell me what you think! (and LOL@better than actual romance—sometimes I think my romance novel habit raised my level of expectations to an insane height that nobody could ever live up to! including me, of course!)…

  14. M Says:

    Barbara Cartland was very popular in India, when I was growing up – among the same crowd that read M&B novels (and yes, I did read them too, but thankfully discovered Heyer early enough and never looked back! :-))
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Adi or the storywriter did nick the story from a BC book…..
    Funily enough, while I have enough gripes about the movie, I thought the setting, with the house and their overall lifestyle was very realistic!

    As for Suri’s house – wasn’t there mention someplace of his having inherited it from his parents? That makes sense to me (I knew several people who inherited houses like Suri’s from their parents – of course, given modernity, most of them sold those houses and retired to flats!)

    M

  15. M Says:

    Oh and regarding realism – all except Taani’s pathetic attempts at housekeeping :-)

    M

    • memsaab Says:

      Okay, let’s start a rumor that Adi Chopra steals story ideas from Barbara Cartland! Taani’s attempts at housecleaning trumped mine, so I can’t complain. And I didn’t mind the grandiose house—I coveted it in fact—why would anyone SELL a house like that? I guess they’d be expensive to maintain. It was beautiful though. It was ALL beautiful.

  16. bollyviewer Says:

    lol Seems like blogland is neatly divided into like- and hate- RNBDJ camps! I need to check it out to find which camp I fall into. And add me on the list of Barbara Cartland readers (long before I discovered Heyer and left “innocent” heroines whose “soul soared to heaven” on being kissed by the hero!). I dont know if I’ve read DOTH or not – but there were several of BC’s books with that sort of theme. I would give Adi Chopra extra points for doing the make-over of a guy – something that I think BC never even dreamed might be required!

    • memsaab Says:

      Exactly! I love that it’s gender-reversed! although I wish I could believe that if it hadn’t been the heroine would have been allowed to stay kind of geeky like Suri was. I’m not sure we’re there yet though. Do watch it—I really loved it.

      • sunil Says:

        Hey that reminds me, there is an absolutely adorable adorable Dharam-Hema starrer “Tum Haseen main Jawan” (comple with cute baby and
        actually funny for a change Poppat Lal(Rajendra) where the plot line IS
        Hema vamping it up but normal Hema insisting it is not her. Also as
        added bonus for males and only males, there is an
        absolutely jaw-dropping scene early on. :)

        • memsaab Says:

          Yes, I think I’ve reviewed that film here somewhere :-) I love it!!! Hema in her blue cleopatra wig is awesome! And Rajendranath gets to wear a saree too as I recall :-D

  17. Laura Says:

    Three quarters of the way through I was in total heaven, but lost it with the silly sumo wrestling scene, and then thought the whole plot resolution was unsatisfactory. One of my favorite versions of this plot is the 1930 Cecil B. Ce Mille “Madam Satan.” http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/reviewpages/MDMadamSatan.htm When Kay Johnson disguses herself in an awsome Adrian gown and an unconvincing French accent, her straying husband no longer recognizes her, but hubba hubba. All’s well that ends well. I wonder if Barbara Cartland saw “Madam Satan”?

    • memsaab Says:

      I so LOVED how she reacted to the sumo wrestler scene though! She totally called him out on it, and on his lame excuse for why he did it (even if she did apologize the next day). And I was frustrated at first by the resolution, but when I examined it in the full context of what had been going on throughout, I found it mostly okay (except for the bit I’ve complained about already in the post)…

      I *NEED* *NEED* *NEED* to see Madan Satan. Is it on DVD? Please say it is!!!!!

  18. Laura Says:

    Another great movie not on DVD! You can get VHS copies on e*Bay, or wait for Turner Classic Movies to show it. The party on the Zeppelin is Art Deco Bollywood before Bollywood!

  19. Sally Says:

    Hey Memsaab,

    Glad to see you liked this movie as I did too. In fact, reading your review is making me want to push RNBDJ to the top of my Netflix list — I want to see it again! And Amritsar is on my travel list too!

    BTW, thanks for the reference to Induna in one of your recent reviews. I had forgotten about the site and went there after your reference to it. I found several films I hadn’t been able to find elsewhere and have even corresponded w/ the owner who is hopeful of obtaining other hard to find films I’ve been looking for. A great site.

    Thanks, as always, for your interesting reviews.

    Sally

  20. Anonymous Says:

    No “not poor” me Memsaab but lucky me for seeing this boring movie on DVD and not wasting my time and $$$ watching it on the big screen!

  21. bobbysing Says:

    Hi Memsaab,
    As discussed earlier, I would like to share the info on the movie “Ponga Pandit” having released on video.
    In India, it has been released by “Shemaroo Video” on VCD & DVD format.

    I hope the info serves the purpose, but If you still cannot get hold of it then please let me know.

    Cheers!

  22. eliza bennet Says:

    Memsaab, I wish I was able to give a hug! This is a film I liked a lot and you reviewed it so brilliantly.

    No wonder people who read BC like this film! And amazingly enough I have not read The Desire of the Heart, and I wish to remedy that soon.

    One of the things that I liked a lot in SRK’s performance is that he arranged the mannerisms of Suri and Raj so brilliantly that they both carry something from each other. So happy that you commented on that.

    Once again thank you and not just for this brilliant review :)

    • memsaab Says:

      I think it’s interesting that so many people DIDN’T see it the way we did! Yes, agree completely re: SRK’s handling of both characters—same to same but different :-D

  23. bluelotus Says:

    I loved this movie too. Sharukh was really good. And yes, I did not like Ghajni – I think it was just al oud South Indian melodramitic movie in Hindi. As for Asin, she is no Sridevi. Dont like Sridevi so much either – but Asin makes her look great! Coming back to RBDJ – i thought it was one of the best movies of 2008.

    • memsaab Says:

      I have no wish to see Ghajini…when I met Aamir in March, he asked if I’d seen it and I told him that I probably wouldn’t; he seemed to understand, but then he asked if I’d seen this film yet! and I said that I hadn’t because it wasn’t out on DVD yet…then realized that it might sound insulting to him! At least I didn’t have to tell him how much I loved RNBDJ though!

  24. ajnabi Says:

    I only read one Barbara Cartland novel, and couldn’t take the endless one-sentence paragraphs, but I do like a good romance novel, which probably explains my fondness for RNBDJ. I’m so very glad I’m not alone in my enjoyment of it.

    • memsaab Says:

      I always hated the way her heroines spoke in breathless gasps, punctuated with …

      As in “I had…to be sure” and “I love…you” ARGHH.

      And your review galvanized me into watching it—I’d been avoiding it since nobody else seemed to think it was any good :-)

  25. Anonymous Says:

    Blue Lotus – pls watch movies like “Mounaragam”, “Nenjathai Killadai”, “Mozhi” in tamil and “Anand”, “Happy Days” and “Bomairllu” in telugu (with English sub titles) for a start to enjoy well made South Indian movies ie good story, acting and music.

  26. sunil Says:

    @bluelt@luelotus – I think you should be condemned to watch “Himmatwallah” in an endless loop for your condescending
    attitude t towards South Indian films. :)

    @memsab: I just realized greatbong (who is screamingly funny when he is sarcastic) has reviewed the movie too.
    http://greatbong.net/2008/12/18/rab-ne-bana-di-jodi-the-review/ (Don asbesto sheets before reading. :) )

    • memsaab Says:

      To be fair to Blue Lotus, I have seen a few very loud and melodramatic south Indian films (I think the intent was to say that it was a bad remake of a bad film) (I haven’t seen either version and don’t want to!) I have seen some good south Indian films too, but I would bet a year’s salary that every film industry on earth has made some loud melodramatic bad films!

      I read greatbong’s review; it was one among many (although funnier than most) ripping the film to shreds. I just don’t think he saw the same film I did!!! :-D

      • sunil Says:

        You read even greatbong? Hmm, you need to try and see if you can become a full time film journalist. :)

      • Anonymous Says:

        You have seen a few good south indian films too? Pray where are the reviews?

        Fully agree with you about film industry world wide having some crappy movies. The point is one should appreciate the good too. Don’t we see a lot of crap in hindi movies too?

        I agree with Sunil about Himmatwala and the other 80s melodramatic hindi movies starring Sridevi, Jeetendra and Jayaprada. Shudder in horror. Most of these were remakes of telugu movies. I was smart in avoiding all those movies and would never recommend anyone to watch those. Infact my twin and I used to have a pact, never to see any Jeetendar movie those days after seening the huge posters on our way to college. We, however, did appreciate Jeetendar in Gulzar’s movies esp Parichary and Khusboo

        • memsaab Says:

          I haven’t seen any since I started writing this blog! I saw a few more towards the beginning of my Indian film watching career…will try to remedy it at some point. Several of them I would like to see again, actually!

  27. rossywar Says:

    This film ancapsulates one of the things that I love about Bollywood films – in that is is possible to have the hero/heroine do really stupid things, behave badly, or have horrible character traits and they’re still sympathetic. On the one hand – Suri’s decisions at the end of the film (or all the way through) are stupid and unsatisfying for the audience, but on the other they make sense for the character (people make stupid decisions in real life!!) and I completely understand why he made the decisions he did. He’s incredibly insecure with low self-esteem – classic ingredients for stupid decisions.

    I half-liked this film- the religious aspect became a little weird towards the end (I fully accept the religious aspects of BW films).

    And I think I’m one of the few people who had no problem with the fact that Taani did not recognise her husband in Raj. Yes, he’s her husband, but they barely share a room and she’s too consumed with grief to really take any notice of this small, shy man. Shy, mousy people can be difficult to take notice of.

    Maybe I’ll change my mind if I watch again and I’ll really dislike it :)

    • memsaab Says:

      I had no problem with her not recognizing Raj as Suri either. I also didn’t mind that Suri is quite a bit older than she is, even that I think fit well with the situation and the story. And although I didn’t like Suri’s decisions at the end, I did appreciate that the voice of reason WAS there in the form of Bobby’s character. I think I will always like this, no matter how many times I watch it!

  28. bluelotus Says:

    Sunil: I think I did not say it right. First of all I have not seen that many South Indian movies to make a general comment about all of them. But Ghajani got such great reviews and became such a big hit that my expectations were very high, especially because of Amir Khan, but it did not quite live up to my expectations. As far as South Indian actors are concerned I am a big fan of Vyjayantimala, Padmini and Hema Malini. I think the best dances had south Indian actresses – I am a big fan of Ragini, I thought she was absolutely fabulous in dances such as Tumko Piya dil Diya, Tu hai mera prem devata etc. I am also a big fan of veteran singer Janaki though I do not understand a word…. But Ghajini …did not do it for me.

    • memsaab Says:

      Have you checked out Richard S’s blog, Rough In Here (link on my sidebar)…he also has a penchant for the south Indian actress-dancers, and posts a lot of great dances there.

  29. Margaret S Says:

    Well, I loved it as well, but it is the first BW film I’ve ever seen! It is really the closest thing to my beloved golden years of Hollywood movies.
    A question: what god is being referred to? Certainly, the white-bearded pic wasn’t Krishna…. On their day together they went to both a catholic church and somewhere else (mosque? Hindu shrine?)
    Is a mixture of faiths a common theme in BW?
    Interested Protestant newbie.
    Thanks!

    • memsaab Says:

      Yay Margaret! Welcome to the fabulous world of BW…yes, religions are very often mixed together in Hindi movies. It’s a very pro-secular community and many films actually revolve around the idea that they are all equal—Hindu, Muslim, Christian.

      • Margaret S Says:

        Thanks, that was very helpful! (still wondering who the white-beard was!!)

        • memsaab Says:

          see pacifist’s answer below (I always get answers to questions I ask here, it’s so wonderful)…

          • Margaret S Says:

            Thanks for that; much appreciated. Mystery solved. ;)

          • Margaret S Says:

            Thanks for that; much appreciated. Mystery solved.

            Sounds like I picked the right BW film for a first. Not knowing who SRK was, I can enjoy it without worrying about his ego. ;) I’m afraid another won’t live up to this one; I liked it SO much (.99 cents on eBay, I’m on the way to sharing it with friends!)

    • pitu Says:

      The white bearded person was Guru Gobind Singh, the founder of Sikhism. The God in question is ‘Rab’ or ‘Rabba’ whom Sikhs worship. And yep, the Golden Temple is a Sikh temple, not Hindu. So the religious overtones throughout the film are not Hindu, they are Sikh.

  30. sitaji Says:

    I’m also late to this party, to the point that it’s almost over. :) (I remember I ‘discovered’ Seinfeld about 5 years into it.) I just saw it last week and put off reading any blogs about it until now, wanting a “clean” view. I also found Anushka perfect for the part. Loved when she got herself together and server the Punjab Power coworkers. SRK getting deeper and deeper into his lie until it became a complex problem of integrity and potential infidelity was also a twist I wasn’t expecting. The mega star item number practically put me into a seizure! That giant hat! All those filmy references. I LOVED IT! I’ll eventually do a post making me even later to this party.

    • memsaab Says:

      LOL@discovering Seinfeld 5 years into it (cause it wasn’t much talked about? ha ha)…better late than never my dear (bet you didn’t see that coming!)…

  31. stuartnz Says:

    Interesting review. Especially since I did like DDLJ. Your obvious fondness for this movie has not sold me, though. I have not seen it, and even after reading your entertaining review, it still sounds like “Paheli 2:This time no ghosts or puppets”. I just can’t get why directors feel the need to keep feeding SRK’s already galaxy-sized ego by having him play dual roles. The fact that even such a thoughtfully well-written eulogy for this film still leaves me cold confirms it: with so many golden oldies to catch up on, my life is just too short for yet another SRK self-love feast.

    • memsaab Says:

      I totally understand. Many people have recommended other Raj Kapoor films to me, but that doesn’t make me any more eager to watch them really :-) I liked this much better than Paheli, though. Also much better than DDLJ! But to each his own, and nothing wrong with that.

  32. pacifist Says:

    @Margaret S
    [still wondering who the white-beard was!!)

    He’s one of the 10 gurus of the Sikhs (Guru Nanak, the first guru), revered by them.

    Golden Temple is the temple of the sikhs.
    Rab=God in Punjabi (the language of most sikhs). There is no image, no special name.

  33. pitu Says:

    Yayyyyyyyyyyyy I am so happy to read this review! I LURVED this movie (I blogged about it too). Some observations:

    1) The falling in love with disguised spouse thing is also in Raj Kapoor’s ‘Satyam Shivam Sundaram’ starring Shashi and Zeenat Aman. She comes to him as this uber glamorous nymph like creature that he sings songs like ‘Chanchal komal sheetal’ to.

    2) The whole being a clerk, living in a grand house thing is not so rare. As he mentions in the movie, it’s his ancestral house (kothi). The bank manager (very middle class) of my mom’s bank in Mumbai lives in a sumptuous ancestral cottage right by the sea! The land alone must be worth crores and the cottage is very tastefully appointed with very old furnishings. But the guy himself is very geeky, simple and yes, mousy. And my mom’s yoga classmate actually owns a medieval fort (abandoned and crumbling but with massive acreage) in a small town 2 hrs from Mumbai. So yeah, it’s possible. A lot of desis in India will hold on to their ancestral homes even if selling and moving would make them rich, and I applaud them for that!

    • memsaab Says:

      Me too! and I want to marry one and live in a house like this one, mousy geek or not!!! :-) I’d even try *very very hard* to keep it up. I hate seeing these gorgeous houses all crumbling.

      Methinks our dogs would love such a life too. Gemma would die a for a courtyard she could run in and out of.

      And yeah, I’m not going to watch Ghajini.

  34. pitu Says:

    And yes, Ghajini sucked :p

  35. Sally Says:

    Hey,

    I finally watched this movie on DVD, after originally seeing it in the theatre last year. A second watching only increased my enthusiasm for this film. In particular, I had forgotten about the wonderful song picturizations. In one of your previous responses to my comment above about this film, you suggested I buy the DVD vs. just renting it from Netflix. You’re right — I will!

    Hope you’ve had a nice summer.

  36. memsaab Says:

    Yay! I’m very happy to be able to watch this whenever I want to :) It’ll make any summer better!

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